Archive for November, 2005

Over Cautious?

In my last post I said that if you are not a person of the Word, then you cannot truly be a person of the Spirit. Dan described me as being “open-but-cautious-yes-prophecy-might-exist-but-the-Word-is-better”. I will admit that I did only give half of the picture. So here I will say it the other way round – if you are not a person of the Spirit, then you cannot truly be a person of the Word.

Over at the SBL conference, there are some seriously knowledgeable people. They would beat you on a Bible quiz any day. They know the original Greek and Hebrew, the textual variants, and the history of interpretation for any passage you care to mention. And the other day one of the scholars chastised the others for not being learned enough in the field of textual criticism.

In John 3, Jesus talks to someone who may well have been the leading theologian of his day “are you the teacher of Israel”, and tells him that he needs the Spirit’s work in his life. There is so much more to knowing God than simply knowing the Bible.

Non-charismatics often speak against the charismatic desire to “experience” God, particularly setting it as a battle of the subjective experience versus the objective Word of God. But this is to make a false dichotomy – the New Testament abounds with experiential language when the Spirit is discussed – joy unspeakable, crying out Abba Father etc. So a genuine commitment to the Word must result in a desire to know not just more about God, but to know him personally too.

So Dan, I am cautious, I freely admit it. But I hope I am truly open as well.

The Bible and Prophecy

As a charismatic, I believe that God can speak in many ways. But as an evangelical, I believe that the surest and clearest way to receive revelation is through the Bible. It is our plumbline for testing all other revelation against.

When charismatics ask “what has God promised me?”, they often refer to whether they have received a “personal prophecy”. If they say “did God speak in the meeting today?”, they are often asking whether there was a prophecy. This tendency to overlook God’s written word is one of the chief reasons why many non-charismatics, while not sure of the arguments for cessation of the gifts, are not willing to join ranks with the charismatics.

I sometimes think that if I were God, I would punish those who didn’t read my written word by not speaking to them in other ways. How arrogant after all, to say “I want to hear your voice” and in the next moment to think “I can’t be bothered to read my Bible”. But God is thankfully infinitely more gracious than me, and still finds ways of getting his message through to those he loves.

In the end though, we will seriously impoverish ourselves if we don’t feed regularly on the Scriptures. God has more to say to us than once a year telling us what house to buy or job to apply for. Every day in the Scriptures, there is a glimpse of his glory to be found as well as practical instruction for how to live a life that brings him glory.

If we charismatics are truly the people who earnestly desire to hear God speak today, then we must be lovers of the Word. If we know the Bible we are not only in a position to weigh the prophecies of others, but to evaluate the impressions through which we believe to be God speaking to us. If we are not people of the Word, then neither are we people of the Spirit.

The Great Cessationist Debate

I’ve had a rather busy few weeks, so have had nothing to put up here for a while, and that will probably continue for a while. I’ve been slowly working my way through all my books to work out who thinks what about the millennium and the rapture. There’s a fairly even spread at the moment of all opinions except pre-trib rapture (dispensational), which is only represented by my wife’s Left Behind books.

However, I have been following the cessationist debate amongst Christian bloggers with some interest, and its probably a good thing I haven’t had the chance to join in, as this is a subject that can run and run. Rob Wilkerson has very helpfully provided an index to posts on the subject. If I can find the time to read through all that and find anything whatsoever that hasn’t already been said, I’ll consider adding my thoughts to the debate.

At our cell group weekend away in the New Forest, I did get the chance to perform my Cessationist hymn though. I’m afraid there is no recording available, but the lyrics are here:

The Cessasionist Hymn (To the tune of ‘My Grandfather’s Clock’)

The gift of tonues was poured out from above,
By the Spirit on those who receive
It is lesser by far than the gift of prophecy
But was used most of all by St. Paul.
It was born on the morn of the day the church was formed
And was always its pleasure and pride
But it stopped… short… never to go again
When the apostles died.

Ninety years without slumbering
Sha la la, sha ba ba
Interpretations following
Sha la la, sha ba ba
But it stopped… short… never to go again
When the apostles died